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Post by simon arnold on Sept 5, 2011 14:29:43 GMT
It has been a year now since Billy started leaving his little packages on the floor overnight, we cage him as I was fed up of dealing with it every morning. We changed the rug, got rid of the rug even completely changed the flooring shut him in another room but no it still happens. Not every night but most. We recently went on holiday and he stayed with my parents for 2 weeks and had no accidents at all, home 24 hours and left a present. I put this down to him telling us off so back in the cage he went. However he has now started doing it during the day aswell I am now caging him during the day as I have had enough! The problem now is even when I am home (only work part time) I always leave the door open for him to go out he has decided that he would rather just mess in the house than take 2 steps out the back door. Someone please must have an idea how to stop him as when the weather gets colder I dont want to leave the door open I have never had to before he always asked to go out why is he doing it?
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Post by prince on Sept 5, 2011 15:00:00 GMT
maybe you might have to go back to the start, when billy leaves a mess clean it up when he is not watching, and use a urine neutraliser spray to iliminate the scent so he does not go back to the same area. you can get the spray from any cleaning centre.
the only other advise i can say is not to tell billy off because they can be embarrassed by what they have done. maybe when he goes outside to relieve him self, a lot of praise to show him this is right and inside is not.
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Post by pat on Sept 5, 2011 15:07:46 GMT
Hi Simon i would say go back to basics, clean the whole area with a pet deodoriser first,make sure when you feed the dog that you immediately put him outside after feeding him and leave him there until he has emptied, feed him bearing in mind that his food will take six to eight hours to go through his body and out the other end, with this in mind a short walk last thing at night will get his bladder and bowel working and he will be clean during the night, ask your parents what routine they had with him as he obviously liked that routine and it worked, it seems as though he is treating the cage as his kennel and the rest of the area as where he goes to the toilet, i would praise him and give him treats when he goes to the toilet outside, but keep to a strong routine as he obviously likes a routine and should get clean quickly as he has shown he can.
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Post by simon arnold on Sept 5, 2011 16:17:51 GMT
I had the carpet cleaned after he went to the parents so that his smell would be well gone by the time he came home, we take him out or 10-15 mins before we leave him for the night and he doesn't come back in until he has been. There was no routine change when he went to my dads as dad works nights so would let him out when he came home at 530 and I get up for work then so I let him out same time. I really think it is just a habit and laziness, caging works as he cant go in there but as for standing at the open door and still doing it inside is just not on! He is most definately not endearing himself to the missus
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Post by pumalass on Sept 6, 2011 7:22:22 GMT
It must be very frustrating, I had that but with just a wee with Mersey for ages, it started to make me so negative towards her as Bart had always been good right from the start, but sometimes it's like a naughty child they want attention even if it's negative attention as he must know why you are annoyed with him. Mersey has been home for 3 years and yet Christmas day she tiddle twice in the living room whilst we went out for dinner and then later when we went out for tea, I was not amused but she was showing off that we had left her. Don't know an answer, a friend of mind got in touch with a behaviourist they may be able to help, hope it gets sorted soon for all of your sakes.
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Post by angela on Sept 6, 2011 9:24:04 GMT
We still have the same trouble with Ruby,although she is better than she was. She was messing on her bed every night, so we changed her tea time from 4.30pm to 7.30pm and this did help the situation.
If you just leave the back door open they do not associate going to the toilet outside, so will just toilet anywhere, I would if poss keep the back door closed and as others have said go back to basics, take him out after sleep/eating/play/treats etc and wait for 5 mins if he has not gone, take him back in and then take him back out after about 1/2 hour, when he does go praise him while he is toileting, as soon as he has finished no more praise. If and when he does make a mess in the house, just ignore him and clean up, if you tell him off he does not know what he has been told off for and will just get confused. At night I would still crate him if that is working, but during the day when you are about just watch him and take him out for regular toilet breaks.
Good luck, I do know how you feel as I say our Ruby is no angel where her toileting is concerned.
Angela
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Post by simon arnold on Sept 6, 2011 18:35:34 GMT
Thanks everyone, sometimes it's just nice to know we are not alone! We will just keep at it and hopefully he will go back to being his wonderfully lazy self again
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Post by yvonned on Sept 7, 2011 20:08:11 GMT
I had a similar problem with Cassie but it was wees, so I started taking her out the garden on a long piece of rope attached to her lead to make sure she went. When she went I praised her then let her off to run free. I think what was happening with Cass was she was more interested in foxes at the bottom of the garden, could Billy be distracted by something or could he be coming straight in if maybe you give him treat. Just recently Cass started refusing to get up and go out in the garden when we first got up, she was "cockin a def un" so for 3 days I had to go to her bed put a lead on and make her go out, things have returned to normal again. Funny dogs but clever on their own side!!!!
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